Saturday, July 29, 2006

Top 25 Heavyweights (As of August, 2006)

By JE Grant

August brings a title matchup between Hasim Rahman and Oleg Maskaev. A win by Maskaev --- something we don’t expect --- would have reverberations throughout the sports world. It would represent a complete sweep of alphabet belts by fighters from the former Soviet Union. Many bloggers and posters to boxing websites are in denial about the not-so-subtle power shift. A Rahman win will give hope to those who think it is just a matter of time before Americans once again reclaim the mantle with him serving as the bridge.

Speaking of slowing the eastern European tide, Cleveland’s Ray Austin curtailed the win streak of hard-punching Russian Sultan Ibragimov by scoring what has to be considered a surprise draw. Austin was clever and rugged, climbing off the canvas early to score a later round knockdown of his own. A rematch would be welcomed.

With Wladimir Klitschko presumably lined up for a November defense against Shannon Briggs – a fighter who is better than his critics would suggest – and Rahman against Maskaev, we’re left with disappointments in titlists Serguei Liakhovich and Nicolay Valuev.

Liakhovich is reportedly going to face Kevin McBride. Of course McBride is remembered for stopping a shell of Mike Tyson, but he did nothing before or since that bout to be considered for a world title match. This is not a personal knock on him – he’s a decent journeyman – but he is not an elite fighter and there are many other opponents who have done far more to deserve a shot.

Valuev will again meet an opponent whose recent record does not inspire confidence. At one time Monte Barrett was indeed near the top of the division but he has not won a bout in a long time and his last outing was a loss. It makes us wonder what his promoters really think about his chances against the bigger names of the division.

Shifts below occurred for a few reasons: Danny Williams’ major drop due to his loss to Matt Skelton headlined. Williams appeared to literally eat his way out of a sure-bet title bout. He weighed a whopping 288 and just couldn’t keep up the pace. The strong effort of Ray Austin against Sultan Ibragimov also caused some restructuring. An active David Tua and surging Vladimir Virchis replace Dominick Guinn and Audley Harrison who haven't impressed lately.

A special thanks goes out this month to heavyweight experts Brian Bizzack and Troy Ondrizek who move slyly behind the scenes to give key intelligence reports for this compilation.


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1. Wladimir Klitschko, Ukraine – IBF Champion (Last month #1) The premier heavyweight’s first IBF defense is close to being set. Shannon Briggs will get what is probably his last shot at a heavyweight title. He’s been busy against much lesser opposition and this bout is likely to demonstrate the talent disparity. Still, Briggs can hit and, well, we’ve seen stranger things happen haven’t we?

2. Hasim Rahman, USA – WBC Champion (Last Month #2) Rock’s defense against Oleg Maskaev could very well turn out to be the pivotal heavyweight match of the year. A second loss to the Big “O” means the entire makeup of the division is outside of the American grip with no dominating youngster in the wings. A Rahman victory will require the world community to still come to America’s shores for a chance at the true gold.

3. Serguei Liakhovich, Belarus – WBO Champion (Last month #3) I’m already looking past his August date with Kevin McBride. Once this embarrassment is over maybe we can start thinking about serious opposition.

4. Lamon Brewster, USA (Last month #4) Still in recovery following retinal surgery. We wish the most exciting fighter in the division the best.

5. Calvin Brock, USA (Last month #5) Now a promotional free agent, the “Boxing Banker” is looking for a big money deal. Perhaps he should take a look at his long-time promoter Main Events and realize that the organization was likely as vital to his current success as any move he has made to date. Why mess with a winning formula?

6. Chris Byrd, USA (Last month #6) In the last two editions of this column we suggested Chris should have a go at the cruiserweight belt. Unbelieveably it is now under serious consideration. I, for one, would pay to see Chris against O’Neil Bell.

7. Samuel Peter, Nigeria (Last month #7) His September date with James Toney will prove to be the breakthrough chance he has sought since his loss to Klitschko. A win means an almost certain title shot.

8. James Toney, USA (Last month #8) JT will get his chance to finally secure a win against a legitimately top 10 ranked heavyweight --- something he has yet to accomplish. Don’t bet the house that he’ll slip and counter his way through the powerhouse Sam Peter.

9. Nicolay Valuev, Russia – WBA Champion (Last month #10) The giant Russian is continuing to disappoint in the “champion” department. In October he’ll engage in yet another defense against someone who has recent, clear setbacks when he steps in against Monte Barrett. Sure Barrett has had modest success but he hasn’t captured a victory since February 2005 and he lost his last bout (against Rahman). How does that qualify as title-fight material? Oh, by the way, HBO will air it. Aren’t we all proud?

10. Sultan Ibragimov, Russia (Last month #12) Sultan was fortunate to escape with a draw over the clever and underrated Ray Austin in July. Although we scored the bout in favor of Ibragimov, it literally could have gone either way. One thing that needs to change fast is that Ibragimov must get in better shape. He appeared absolutely pudgy. This isn’t the time to let yourself go Sultan. Tighten up.

11. Ray Austin, USA (Last month #16) So close and yet so far. His draw with Ibragimov at least means he gets another chance and he deserves it. His smart use of his physical attributes makes him a difficult opponent for anyone. His heart makes him a cut above most of the competitors in the game today.

12. John Ruiz, USA (Last month #11) The “Quiet Man” is still ranked number 1 by the WBA. Consider this, he has not won a fight since November 2004 and has done nothing since his December 2005 loss to Nicolay Valuev. You tell me why he rates a “mandatory” title shot.

13. Oleg Maskaev, Uzbekistan (Last month #13) The big chance is finally here. Maskaev seeks to gain a title and, historically, become the fourth current belt-holder from the former Soviet Union. It will prove no small task in taking the measure of an older and wiser Hasim Rahman.

14. Shannon Briggs, USA (Last month #14) The former lineal champion says he will be completely focused in his preparations for Wladimir Klitschko. He was an extra-thick 273 in his last bout. Such a recurrence against Klitschko will spell doom. He has a chance because of his power but he’ll have to be at his best or he’ll get blasted by the faster and sharper hitting Ukrainian.

15. Ruslan Chagaev, Uzbekistan (Last month #15) A credible win over Michael Sprott in July should push “White Tyson” into a meaningful contest soon.

16. DaVarryl Williamson, USA (Last month #17) Nothing on the boards for the 37 year-old. A recent return victory won’t mean much if he doesn’t follow with a win against a ranked contender.

17. Fres Oquendo, USA (Last month #18) Although he fought in May – and didn’t look all that impressive – he has nothing scheduled (as far as we can find). His latest comeback is curiously inconspicuous.

18. Matt Skelton, England (Last month #19) Who would’ve thought the 39 year-old Skelton would be the one headed for a title shot? Just a few months ago he appeared to be on the way to the club show circuit. With his clear win over Danny Williams he will likely be fodder for Valuev. Don’t expect him to win, but at least he’s getting his chance.

19. Jameel McCline, USA (Last month #21) A solid decision win over a tough and able Terry Smith in July showed some juice. He showed good conditioning, but it is still baffling that a 270 pound man can’t hit harder. Nonetheless, with six wins in a row, he rates a top ten shot.

20. Danny Williams, England (Last month #9) So, you’re Danny Williams and you’re a single fight away from Nicolay Valuev and his belt. So, of course you come into your Commonwealth title fight with Matt Skelton at 288 – about 30 pounds overweight – and you huff and puff your way to a decision loss. What were you thinking Danny? Chances at world belts are rare. Don’t expect a call. (Then again, given the WBA titlist’s recent track record, the loss may just jettison Williams into a title shot).

21. Luan Krasniqi, Germany (Last month #20) Lots of talk about a possible bout but nothing is scheduled. He needs to take a page from the Jameel McCline book of staying active.

22. Tony Thompson, USA (Last month #22) At age 34 he’ll have to capitalize on his win over Dominick Guinn in a short period. He does not have the luxury of time.

23. David Tua, New Zealand (Last month unranked) – Tuaman returned in July from a 9-month hiatus to stop Edward Guitierrez. The bout marked Tua’s third bout in the last three years. He’ll to really turn up the volume if he wants another title crack.

24. Vladimir Virchis, Ukraine (Last month unranked) In beating Paolo Vidoz he gained the European title and a bit of redemption since losing to Chagaev.

25. Monte Barrett, USA (Last month #25) When he meets Nicolay Valuev in October he will have gone 20 long months since his last win. Indeed his last bout was a clear loss to Hasim Rahman. It is starting to seem that the fast track to Big Nick is to demonstrate a great deal of inactivity and some key recent losses. First Owen Beck and now this. What’s next a rematch with John Ruiz? Oops, someone may have heard that.

Prospects, fringe contenders, and others who need mentioning listed in no particular order. Don’t read the fact that they are listed here as an indication a ranking is imminent. Regular readers should also note that I’ve taken off some names that were here in months past but who still rate attention. We're highlighting activity and when potentially top fighters have bouts scheduled you’ll likely see them reappear:

Dominick Guinn, USA (Last month #23) How does he pickup the pieces? Perhaps a club circuit tour like that of Jameel McCline could restore some confidence. We’re very close to running out of possibilities.

Audley Harrison, England (Last month #24) “A Force” moved back into the win column in June and will have to be very active if he is to ever challenge for a title.

Paolo Vidoz, Italy – For those persistent emailers who pined for the “Titanium Jaw” to be included not only in the top 25 but the top 10 of this list, the once-beaten Vladimir Virchis demonstrated the difference between an above-average journeyman and a potential title contender. Vidoz folded against Virchis in six rounds. This rating business can’t be left to amateurs --- that’s why you won’t see Vidoz in this column next month.

Alexander Dimitrenko, Ukraine –The big youngster moved to 22-0 (13 KOs) with an unsurprising two round stoppage of the usually cruiserweight journeyman Chad Van Sickle. He recently stepped up a notch by defeating Vaughn Bean; we have to wonder why his handlers have gone backward in opponent selection.

Tye Fields, USA – The big man moved to 37-1 with a July stoppage over the hot-and-cold Maurice Harris. It’s time for him to make a move on the top 15 heavyweights.

Joe Mesi, USA – “Baby Joe” was scheduled for an August contest in South Africa but that bout was canceled, according to Mesi’s website, when “the promoter of the event…failed to fulfill his financial obligations.” Hopefully he uses the extra time to get in better shape.

Eddie Chambers, USA – The 24 year-old “Fast” Eddie, now 26-0, is set for a September bout in Philadelphia’s fabled Blue Horizon. No name yet on the opponent. We need to start seeing him on TV.

Chazz Witherspoon, USA – Chazz’ June win over Michael Alexander on Showtime didn’t make anyone tingle. He was clearly overweight, slow, and not all that hard to hit. The smallish Alexander didn’t have the pop to test Witherspoon’s chin. He did show resolve and a willingness to fight hard in the late rounds, but all-round improvement and fitness are required before he moves forward.

Alexander Povetkin, Russia – After only eight bouts, he has audiences buzzing. The former Olympic gold medallist may just be the real thing. Rumors are swirling that he may face ex-Euro champ Paolo Vidoz. This would represent an uptick in competition and any upward movement is good.

Gonzalo Omar Basile, Argentina – The big fella has won 10 fights in 2006 including an eight round decision in July over Mariano Ramon Ocampo (you know him don’t you?). How many fighters stay that busy nowdays? He is 24-1 – with 24 straight wins. We can only hope that he ventures into the land of well-known heavyweights --- soon.

J.D. Chapman, USA – The 23 year-old is now 24-0 (21 KOs) after stopping hapless Chris Lewallen in two rounds in July, his fifth bout of 2006. He’s already scheduled for a September date. Such a determined campaign, coupled with the able corner work of Jeff Mayweather, may smooth off his very rough edges.

Malik Scott, USA – Weighing a career high 255 (19 pounds heavier than his previous outing) Scott moved to 25-0 (10 KOs) with a points victory over Marcus McGhee. The win marks his ninth decision in his last 10 bouts. Perhaps the added weight may have an effect on his power --- but it hasn't so far.

Kevin McBride, Ireland – Look for this to be the last month you see his name on this list. He meets belt-holder Serguei Liakhovich in August. End of story.

Denis Boytsov, Russia – The 20 year-old Russian prodigy picked up an eight-round decision win in July over unknown Edson Caesar Antonio in Germany. It marked the first time in the youngster’s now 16-0 career that he was extended the distance.

Sinan Samil Sam, Germany (via Turkey) – Though consistently overrated by the WBC, Sam is a fairly competent heavyweight. He’s proven rugged but underpowered. Nonetheless he remains a tough trial-horse and a worthy notch on the belt of any aspiring contender.

123 Comments:

Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Huh...This came a few days early. Alright, let's take a look...

First off, what are Vidoz and Sam even doing on here? Replace their names with Greenberg (fighting soon) Bidenko,Virches,etc,etc. Wait a minute...Where is Virches? You put Vidoz in there, and not the guy that beat him? Ohh...JE...There seems to be a few glaring flaws here. Let me look over it fully.

THANKS FOR THE PROPS THOUGH! ;-)

6:05 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

A quick note on Scott's weight; It wasn't "good weight", it was just...Weight. He should be in the 230's, definetly.

I'll be back...

6:09 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

You jumped in sooner than I expected. Take a relook and you'll see that Virchis moved into the top 25. Sometimes I think you are psychic because I noticed my omission of Virchis almost immediately. I've also moved Audley Harrison and Dominick Guinn out of the top 25. Sam gets a mention with heavy qualifiers. I don't expect that he'll crack the legit top 25 (though he may reappear as the top WBC contender).

6:21 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

Who is Greenberg fighting?

6:23 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

Okay I like how you talked about Luan needing to taking the McCline circuit to getting fights, but like I told you before The most likely fight for either man right now is each other. Oh did you guys hear the rumor of Malik Scott and Eddie Chambers possibly facing off? I am waiting to hear back from Scott on this one. Vidoz did warrant a top 25 rating at the time,a nd maybe with a little time to train he could've put up a better effort against Virchis, but he was outboxed by Virchis. That is almost like being outboxed by Sam Peter, who would've known.

7:16 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

McCline-Krasniqi would be a good encounter. I've looked through the German media and I've haven't seen movement on signing the bout. Do you have some better insight?

7:47 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

Yeah, let me talk to Scott Hirsch again about it, it was a done deal for a momemnt, and now negoitaions have been rekindled. Krasniqi's people got a little leary after the Smith bout.

7:58 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

I would hope it would be televised in the US.

8:19 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Okay, I still haven't read this whole thing and gone over it with the proverbial fine-tooth comb, but I am glad you caught that one glaring gaffe JE, but I knew you had caught it through my "remote viewing" and psychic abilities, so I wasn't overly-concerned. (LOL)

As for have I heard about the Chambers-Scott rumour? Yeah, I "started that rumour" Troy! (LOL) I heard a little something from a 'boxing insider' with that one, but it's just that. A slight possibility/rumour at this point. I'll let you know if I hear anything further.

As for Mccline-Krasniqi, good fight. Would it be televised in the U.S? Emm...Possibly, but I kinda doubt it actually. It would probably be over in Germany for one thing. This one would kind of be well-suited for a $10 webcast perhaps, eh gentlemen?

;-)

9:59 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Oh...Who will Greenberg be facing? Currently "TBA" Troy. (Alright...Sorry. You know I kinda like the kid though guys. LOL) But he will be fighting sometime fairly soon.(He was injured) It could be against another journeymen, or there is a slight possibilty of Virches and Skelton.

Now THAT would DEFINETLY be $10 webcast material gents! (Personally, I think that would be a SHO or HBO level fight, but it wouldn't happen. I would even cough-up a low-moderate PPV price for that one, myself!)

*I have the list now printed out to inspect and enjoy...

10:03 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

Brian, yes I caught that from you, but I got it from Mike Marley as well. he said he heard a rumor from a promoter and asked me to follow up. So maybe just maybe, the promoter read one of your post and said something to Marley, and I caught wind from both sides of the story.

10:23 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Huh...By god, that is a distinct possibility Troy. Either I have indeed (more or less!) "started a rumour", or perhaps it is a bit more than a slight rumour, and a bit more widespread than I initially thought. In any case - this sounds like a case for B.B & T.O. (We'll take care of the 'dirty work' for the guy with the initials "J.E". LOL)

BTW- Last month's top-25 disappeared a bit sooner into the archives than expected, but in case you didn't catch it - I have no problem whatsoever with Vidoz as an opponent for Povetkin. As a matter of fact, the more I thought about it, the more appropriate the fight sounded. Vidoz - while no 'world-beater' - is a good journeymen, that would be a suitable opponent for any undefeated hvy with less than 12 pro fights, and some with more.

10:33 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

* Also guys, in case you didn't know, both Chambers and Scott are from Pennsylvania. It seems like a great potential fit for an HBO "after dark", SHO "Shobox", or perhaps OLN, or ESPN. And with the right promoting/marketing, I think the fight could make good (but obviously not big) money. The winner would be an instant contender (of sorts) and a definite bona-fide prospect. Actually...The winner there would kind of surpass the "prospect" label, sorta...

Rare for two undefeated hvy's to fight one another, but not unheard of. And they are from the same area. I'm not thrilled about either guy, but that would be a good matchup that I would like to see.

10:39 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

I would love that matchup. I would also love an 8 man tourney of the cruisers and the heavies on Showtime, much like what they have done with the Super Middleweights. I gave my 8 on Amato's. But for Cruisers I half to make an article myself since this is a heavy piece. Chambers, Scott, and one more youn gfighter all reign from Philly. Nice little scene they have going there. Oh yeah, it's Witherspoon. At least Chazz in a follow-up interview after his last victory realized how poorly he looked and that he needs some work. At least the kid isn't full of himself like Scott is.

11:41 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

(Good stuff on Jimmy A's T.O) I agree. Although I wasn't at all impressed with Chazz, I really haven't been much with the other two either, quite frankly. Witherspoon is still a ways away from taking any sort of significant step-up (He BARELY beat that last cruiser that he fought) but for Scott & Chambers - it's time to at least turn it up a notch. (Perhaps the best out of this seemingly mediocre group of young American hvy's, might kinda be worth at least something! LOL)

* Sidenote- The TV coverage of these guys has been just awful and...Practically non-existant, really. I understand they aren't going to make anyone forget about a young Tyson or Holyfield soon, but not even any ESPN coverage for god's sakes. Perhaps there is a legit reason for that (?) but I don't quite get it. You hardly even read about those guys anywhere...

* Troy- Hirsch obviously has done a good marketing job with Briggs (Like I said before I even really knew him in anyway; Briggs shouldn't have been named "comeback fighter of the year" in 2005, but his P.R team/guy "publicist of the year!" He also did a fair job with J.D Chapman in that regard. Anyways, my question is this; is he involved with Mike Marrone in any way? The reason I ask is that they are both from Florida, and there (if nothing else) was a good 'buzz' about Marrone in 2005. (Unfortunately...The buzz turned out to be more of a 'gurgle' in my opinion, and although he is still very young, it immediatly reaked of overhyped young white hvy to me.)

Anyways, not to sound cynical, but we should probably keep our focus on the young Euro/Russian hvy's. (With the slight possible exception of perhaps Kevin Johnson, you can't really make chicken soup out of chickens*it I suppose.)

BTW-I'm off to bed to read the whole piece, and perhaps we'll comment on the the somewhat 'tried and true' top-10 guys a bit tomorrow...

1:41 AM  
Blogger orltroy said...

Later Bizzy, as for Marrone, Hirsch has absolutely nothing to do with him. He is a Duva boy, and let me tell you on how Duva might not have any heavyweights in the near future, and I mean ANY.

2:11 AM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

Kevin Johnson is, at least for the time being, a one-trick pony. Sure, his "trick" is a stinging jab and that is important, but that's where his game ends. He needs a lot of overall improvement.

5:58 AM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

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8:09 AM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

I think a tournament is a good idea. The focus would be on up-and-comers fighting in an America vs. the World format, single-elimination. The winner would get a solid payday and a 6-fight deal with ABC. How's that for optimism?

8:11 AM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Ahh...Good stuff. About as solid as a George Chuvalo cranium after that initial 'hiccup'. Spot-on comments all the way through, and appropriate rankings.

Troy- That's right...He was/is a full-fledged Duva guy.

JE- Totally agreed on Johnson. Absolutely. However, I do see some potential with him, and kinda like the raw tools/attributes he has to work with. He could be kind of a dark horse/sleeper, but he does have much improvement to make. (Who is his trainer? I forgot...I'll check.)

* That tourney does sound like an excellent idea. However - retiring at 40 a multi-millionaire and shacking-up with a few supermodels does as well. (lol)

1:54 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

* Oh...One thing J.E. Unless you perhaps know something I don't, the Liahkovich-Mcbride fight is not 100% official, and definetly not in August. Awhile back Kenny (Weldon) confirmed it to me, I double-checked and asked him if it was 100% and I could go public with it, and he said yes. However - he apologized to me a short while after, and said he was misinformed and/or jumped the gun a bit. At last check (which was very recently) he said it was likely, but even he doesn't know exactly what's going on at this point. Alot of 'politics' behind the scene, and some 'shuffling' with a few of the other fights that have recently been announced. There may be a strong liklihood of Liahkovich-Mcbride on the Oct.7 HBO card, but as far as I know...Nothing signed,sealed,and delivered. I'll let you know as soon as I hear something further...

2:07 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

I heard that SHowtime and HBO said no because McBride wasn't a viable draw. But that is just me.

4:42 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Hmm..Could be Troy...(???) Although with a doubleheader, and Valuev's debut, I would think that to not really be the case. But it raises in interesting and potentially valid point; on it's own, would that be a viable SHO/HBO fight? I don't think so, quite frankly...

5:02 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

...Liahkovich-Brock would be nice, eh? Liahkovich-Brewster 2 would obviously be great, but it sounds like LB will be on the shelf until 2007, and possibly forever.

5:07 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Even though I've never been "overly-impressed" by Brock, Kenny Weldon has stated in the past, that of the top-contenders/champions currently out there, he feels Brock may pose the best and most formidable challenge to Sergei. I could see that fight potentially being close.

5:10 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

I would LOVE to see Liakhovich/Brock. And with Brock being courted at the moment by King, it just might be closer than we think. Brock is teh heavyweight version of Carlos Baldomir, minus the balls and great chin. Brock is steady and willing to mix it up when need be, oh yeah, Brock isn't the linear champion of his weight class like Baldomir is, and that is a big difference.

7:08 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

Then again Troy there is no linear champion in the heavyweight division.

7:25 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

Exactly. But hopefully if valuev and Liakhovich both fight on the same card, then maybe, just maybe, King would have the two square off. I actually see King having Valuev face Liakhovich within a year, and I say this because King's contract with Valuev has 3 more fights on it, so after October, King will have only two fights in which to trap Valuev forever.

7:33 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

Oh BTW JE, thx for the plug. I just enjoy the banter that we share, but a little notoriety isn't bad every once in a while.

8:03 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

No sweat on the mention.

8:19 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

I'm somewhat skeptical about a Liakhovich v. Valuev match anytime soon. If Valuev can look decent in his HBO debut then maybe --- if not, there is no chance of it happening. If he looks bad on HBO, the big man will return to Germany and fight guys like Owen Beck forever.

8:21 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

There is a little something creeping (and it's indeed creepy) upon us with Valuev and King I fear. It's the 49-0 mark. I could envision King putting Valuev in against a few opponents of 2nd-tier level, and then the diabolical marketing-machine starts rolling. But if he feels there is no shot for wrapping him up beyond three fights, he will make the most money possible in the 3rd one. That - you can plan on.

P.S- At this rate, there will be 800 or 900 posts on this thing by the end of August! (lol)

8:35 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

BTW- I'm about to get the "411" on young undefeated hvy "KO artist" David Rodriguez. I figure if my wily ol' Texas contact doesn't know anything, he may not be worth much. (Come to think of it...I think JE may be in Texas. Anyways, this other guy has lived there all his life, whereas I don't believe JE has.) Anyways, stay tuned...

9:05 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

The fact that we are past 30 and August hasn't hit yet, your fuzzy math might become clear. Anyways, I do see King doing something Diabolical in trying to get Valuev signed for the long term. And the best possibility of that is to get valuev to agree to a unification fight with another King fighter, thus alluring Valuev to sign on longer. And right now as we all know, Liakhovich is Kings best chance at doing that, unless he gets Brock signed soon.

9:06 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

You talking old grizzled Houston boxing scene vet, Weldon?

9:07 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Indeed Troy, indeed...And yes, my math is indeed a tad bit "fuzzy" at times. *Reaches for abacus*

;-)

9:10 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

Valuev does have a no-contest on his record depending on who you ask. It does appear, however, that he actually won the bout. Long, boring story. Anyway, I don't expect that "0" to last too long unless he returns to Germany. (Imagine Paolo Vidoz, Michael Sprott, et al. as WBA title aspirants).

9:12 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

BTW I am in Texas but not near anything resembling a center of boxing action. Soon I will pass on to the two of you my actual identity.

9:14 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

I tell you what JE, like I explained once to Bizzy, that Ondrizek was my real name because who the hell could make up a name like mine. Shit, it isn't even pronounced like it is spelled, close though. (On-dra-zak)

9:21 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Ditto Ondrizek. I'm an Irish-Italian with a Slovak last name, and it helps me get free parking at times. (I once told Angelo Dundee this, and he loved it.) As for the idenity of JE? Texas...D.C...It's really quite simple folks.

"George Bush".

(LOL)

9:36 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

Oh, how about Ibragimov/Austin on the undercard of Klitschko/Briggs. That would make it very interesting and setting up the next bout with ease (unless Briggs wins and the rematch clause comes into effect.)

11:28 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Ibragimov-Austin on the undercard of Klitschko-Ruiz? Sounds like fun. But so does retiring at 40 and living with the supermodels...(WTF? Have you been slurping on the Guinness Ondrizek & JE? Okay...I have! * But I'm on vacation this week! LOL*)

11:41 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Geez...*Cringe, face blushes...* Okay guys, I at least caught the gaffe ("freudian slip"?) before you did. Klitschko-BRIGGS...(Okay...I know...Time to "cut Bizzy off"...LOL)

11:42 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

Bizzy, I'll have what your having. Just pass it on over, oh btwe, can I have your keys. No, then let me have your pants, okay, Red Stripe beer commercial never works. But at least I tried.

11:57 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Uncut "Boxing reality" at it's best folks. I tell you...Call me nuts, but I think we have a real formula & chemistry here working...;-)

4:41 AM  
Blogger orltroy said...

Bizzy, I hate to burst your buble, but Malik Scott just told me that him and Chambers isn't likely, but that was through an e-mail. he is taking a couple days off, and will call me later in the week to talk about that and other things.

5:45 AM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Troy- Yeah, I figured it was a real long-shot anyhow. I have Johnson & Chambers email (never talked to either) perhaps I'll fire them one...

Oh...David Rodriguez? From the words of a highly-respected trainer...

"Fairly ordinary"..."Draws well in Texas"..."I don't feel he is a legitimate world-class prospect Bizzack"...

;-(

2:47 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

I just got done watching Boytsov's latest fight, and it was a great one for him. Great performance? No. But not a bad one, and one that he will hopefully learn from. His opponent was not bad, and turned out to be a decent journeymen that gave him some rounds. He actually turned out to be that "ideal opponent" for D.B at this stage that I described last month. Boytsov's range/jab was a bit off, he didn't cut off the ring real well at times, but he won virtually every round. He didn't look like a "young Tyson" in this one, as much as he kinda looked like a (very) young Holyfield. He also weighed in at 213.lbs, and looking at him - there MAY be room for about another 10 or 15 possibly.

P.S- You really should throw/keep Greenberg in there J.E. I think along with Boytsov & Povetkin, he is probably one of the three most promising young hvy's out there. He should have a date announced by the end of the month, and it hasn't been THAT long since he last fought. (Aprx. 4 months. Broken rib/rib cartlidge problems, and possible negotiations with Virches and Skelton.)

10:56 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

How did you watch it?

4:55 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

On my below-the-top 25 list I'm trying to track guys who just had a fight or have one scheduled soon. It's getting harder to keep track.

4:56 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

How did I see it? I finally figured out that "bit-torrent" file thing that I was referring to (Troy) earlier. They have many fights on there, and the only downside is the very user-unfriendly part, and they take a long time to download full-fights. I can burn it to DVD and send it though. I also have a few of Boytsov's earlier fights, which I could just send via email if you like. (They aren't very big files - 1 to 3 rounds - so I could send them via that route.)

As for the fringe thing, I hear you, and that does make some sense, but I still think Greenberg should be on there. He is one of the most promising young prospects in my opinion, and while it may not be saying much - I believe he is the best hvy in the U.K at the moment. I think he would beat Skelton, Williams, and Harrison. He has admittedly fought nothing more than tomato-cans and journeymen, but I believe he will take a fairly major step-up soon, and is on the cusp of contendership. (Speaking of which folks...I have to get some pretzels or popcorn for tonight's episode. Yes, bring on the ridiculing hate mail - I kinda like "The Contender".)

5:49 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

* How's this...If Greenberg has a fight officially scheduled by the end of the month - with at least a fairly respectable opponent - put him on for September's list. If not; leave him off for the time being.

Fair enough?

I thought so...

;-)

5:52 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

You must think a lot of Greenberg. I can't wait to see him.

6:18 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

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6:28 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

Cruiser -- What does Chambers think of his mentions on the top 25 list?

6:29 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Well...I'm not completely sold on him by any means, but I seem to put him in a bit higher esteem than most. (Writer) Clive Bernath is kinda the same way in that regard. We think he could be a potential 'sleeper'. He is fast and fluid with the hands and feet, and has decent pop. I don't mean to drop names (but I will! LOL) I've talked/corresponded with Angelo Dundee a few times, and he thought the same. He said he thought he may be the fastest hvy since Ali. He kind of fights a bit like a "hvy Roy Jones", but with a bit more focus on learning the fundamentals. Anyways...I also thought a young 20-yr.old guy named Herbie Hide had alot of potential (which he did) but he never panned out for various reasons...(lol)

P.S- If you would like me to at least send the few short clips of some early Boytsov fights J.E, let me know. Either just post a msg., or shoot me an email.

6:32 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

Of course I'd like to see the clips.

6:34 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

BTW- I know that Angelo's "eye for talent" seems to be a bit questionable these days (Attila Levin, David Estrada, etc.) or he seems a bit prone to (I hate to say it) possibly "lip service" in the way he spoke of Levin, but I just love the guy...

6:34 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

I'm also going to send you an email in just a few minutes. Let me know when you've received it.

6:34 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

Guys the rumor for Povetkin is that Vidoz was too expensive so Ed Mahone just might be his next opponent. An immobile man who has lost his last three fights, but still packs a little wallup. I would prefer Oliver McCall as a bigger name but still limited at this moment for Povetkin's next opponent if they had to have this style for Sasha.

9:37 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

Okay I'm sure you guys have heard but I love these fights coming up. Oleg Platov-vs-Henry Akinwande. Platov is a smaller version of Vladimir Virchis, minus the chisseled physigue but with all the power and slightly better boxing skills. If Akinwande becomes immobile or suddenly turns well, old, he could be in big trouble with Platov's mule-like power. The other fight is between two guys who couldn't crack an egg, but can box their opponent's ears off, is former amateur star Alex Mazikin and already proven tough Taras Bidenko. This will be a chess match that I have Bidenko winning if he has gained his confidence back. Mazikin is getting older and needs fights like this, his only step up so far has been against Valery Chechenev on the internet last year, since then Mazikin's opponents have been as bad as Boytsov's. These fights should be good.

10:00 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Orltroy...You're a sick individual. (LOL!) I mean, it's not like this is a cruiserweight unification fight. I don't know "Oleg Platov" from Oksana Baiul, other than he is a young medium-sized hvy from Ukraine. Akinwande? Yes, I do (unfortunately!) know about him. Not a bad fighter, tall and awkward, but also not very fun to watch, and over-40. As for the other fight - I have seen both. Bidenko, is no slouch. At all. He's not world champ material, but not at all bad. Mazikin? Not bad, but not very good.

Anyways, pretty even matchups...

As for Povetkin, Mahone would be "okay". Not really a step up from Ahunaya, but not a drastic step down either.

1:06 AM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Wait a minute...I checked my notes, and I HAVE seen Platov (once.) I didn't think he had high potential, but not a bad fighter.

* Yes, I take notes...(I guess I need a prescription too...lol)

1:21 AM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

BTW- I have honestly never spoken to Johnson or Chambers, but I do have their emails. I will msg them. As for Chambers, I don't see "future greatness" written over him, but he's not a bad prospect. He just gets practically ZERO press.

As for Johnson, it may be time to mention him, flaws and all. Once again, I'm a bit "intrigued" by Johnson, with his size, jab, relative youth, athleticism, and size. I just hope they don't rush him too much, and bring back memories of a Michael Grant or Larry Donald. I mean, I remember watching Peter a few years back, and thinking; "This guy has some potential, but has a long ways to go". He still does, but depite the loss to Vlad, he did make some real progress (still has some to go, and I don't think he will ever fully. A whole other issue perhaps) and I kind of sense that with Johnson, but in a different way...

* Sidenote- What a major disappointement KIRK Johnson turned out to be. I don't know if he would have ever been at the very top, but he had the potential to be a good hvy...

1:34 AM  
Anonymous The Cruiserweight said...

I happened to talk to Jeremy Williams the other day. Not a great hvy, but a seemingly great guy. I think he may do well as a trainer. He's pretty sharp and level-headed. It appears as though he is retired, and he invested the significant but-not-huge money he made in his career quite well. I always liked Jeremy...

* Too bad the cruiser limit wasn't 200.lbs in the 90's & early 2000's. He would have made a good one.

1:39 AM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

***Just one more thing*** (Det.Columbo)

I should have a few Dimentrinko fights arriving soon. To be honest - I have only seen one very brief clip of the guy. I'm a bit curious, and will let you guys know when/if they arrive...

1:43 AM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

* Just a reminder JE. You may want to correct that "Mcbride meeting Liahkovich in August" before you send it to Fox Sports/Boxing Scene. Still not official that fight will happen, and if it does, it would be in the Fall...

2:14 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

I've already sent the piece. I hope it gets over with quickly -- but you're probably right about it being in the fall.

7:06 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

I think Kirk Johnson never really believed in himself.

7:09 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

Cruiser -- I dropped you another email.

7:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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10:01 AM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Just sent you an email back JE. No biggie on the other (As of June and most of July, it looked pretty official for August) but as my email alluded to; there may be a chance Sergei doesn't fight for a few more months possibly. He's not injured, but due to the risk/reward factor involved - not too many quality hvy's seem to want to fight him. The normally reserved and mild-mannered Russian even raised his voice about unification the other day, and I had to give him some kudos for that.

P.S- As for (Kirk) Johnson - absolutely. He just didn't quite have the "intangibles". He was kind of like a few of those good but "lost" hvy's of the 80's in many respects...

10:19 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

I'll give you that Johnson was a disappointment, and he would've fit in the 80's perfectly. I actually see him as a James Tillis or James Smith. In fact, a little hypothetical question here. How do you guys think fighters like Pinklon Thomas, Greg Page, and Tim Witherspoon would fare against today's heavyweights given they meet up during each others primes.

11:04 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

Guys, I'll be off the net for the next week or so. You'll likely hear from me again following the Rahman-Maskaev bout. It could be sooner with some luck.

8:10 AM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Yep Ortroy. I think those guys would have fit right in as top-contenders/'world champs', but probably not undisputed. You could also throw a few others in there as well probably.

*Correction: Sergei is a Russian-American. My bad...

BTW- We'll see you soon JE. Crack a cold one when you get back.

4:26 AM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Huh...So it looks like we are 'holdin down the fort' for the next week Orltroy. Or perhaps this is an experiment (Pavlav's dogs?) to see how we behave while he is gone? Well, in any case, perhaps we should talk about three of the most 'storied' fighters (and personal favs) in history; Tony Galento, Fritzie Zivic, and Primo Carnera. Or...Three of the most underrated fighters in history (and a few of my personal favs) Eder Jofre, Mike McCallum, and Ricardo Lopez...

*Puffs on pipe*...

;-)

2:35 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Ohh...Any and all talk on the cruiserweight division is welcome. Especially if it is Dwight Qawi or David Haye related.

*Puffs on Pipe*...

;-)

2:41 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

How about Chris Byrd in the cruiserweights? I think he may actually prove to be an exciting addition because he will be less inhibited by the power of his opponents (though Bell is a pretty good hitter). ---- Written from far away........

9:20 AM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

I was thrilled at the possibility of Byrd fighting at 200, but at 35 and a multi-millionaire - I was shocked as hell he would even seriously entertain the notion! (We'll still see...) I have thought for YEARS that Byrd should have been a cruiserweight, and could have gone down as one of the best cruisers/small hv'ys in history. He kind of reminds me of a "21st century" Jimmy Young...

As for the happenings right now JE, Forrest scored a questionable decision over Quartey (I had the fight 95-94 Quartey) and the latest hvy news is this; Chagaev-Ruiz possibly in a few months for some alphabet mandatory. Now, the fact that I despise Ruiz (and the alphabets for that matter) is no big secret, but this is a decent matchup. I (& we) both at least have these two close to the top-10 I suppose, and it would be a good test (boy it hurt to say that) for Chagaev. (Let's just pray to pugilistic gods that he passes...)

As for tonight's fights, Verno Phillips easily beat Teddy Reid (Phillips is just good all-around and solid. Nothing fancy, but a true professional) He looked like he was about 25 out there tonight instead of 35! As for Reid, he's also 35 - but looked like he was about 45. Simply put; time to retire for Teddy...

Oh, we were also 'treated' to a rare glimpse of American hvy "hopeless" Alonzo Butler. Folks, Alonzo provided about as much "hope" as getting a misplaced stack of currency returned in full. He's big and he's strong, but...He's big & strong. (Those are about the only two good things I can say about him!) Yes, I understand he had very little amatuer exp. - but boy does it show. He is YEARS away from becoming any kind of legit contender (any good journeymen with a decent chin would beat him at this juncture) and may never even go that far. He kind of reminds me of a football player turned boxer. Kind of like another Alonzo (Highsmith) early in his career - but not quite as good! Anyways, ever heard that phrase; "The butler did it"?

Well, this Butler AIN'T gonna do it...(lol)

(I have a feeling I won't be getting any Christmas cards from Alonzo this year...;-)

P.S- I have never been overly impressed by Shannon Briggs, and I not PICKING him to win against Vlad, but...I give him a pretty good chance to score a big upset. Better than some/most. Depending on the odds - I may lay a few 'beans' on Shannon.

Hope you enjoyed this little 'exclusive' update J.E. Hope you return soon...

*Bizzy on Boxing*

11:40 PM  
Anonymous The Cruiserweight said...

BTW- Rahman weighed in at 235, Maskaev 238. Rahman looks to be in great shape, as does Oleg. (As I've said before, Rahman with relative ease, early/mid round KO/TKO...)

* Brian Viloria got soundly defeated (116-112/117-111) in a bit of a shocker tonight.

*BB*

10:23 PM  
Blogger curlygc said...

Hey JE! I'm glad to see you giving Wladimir his props! I have him at #1 as well, and of course, so does Ring Magazine. I'm not sure I'd have Rahman at #2 though. I think Liahkovich is better. Maybe Brewster too.

7:38 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Roman Greenberg will be fighting on Sept.9th. His opponent? One that has stopped many unsuspecting contenders, and ruined many prospects.

"TBA".

BTW-Mesi is fighting next week. His opponent's record? 9

9-27.

C'mon Joe...This has gotten to the point of ridiculous. (He's fighting "TBA" alright. To Be Annihlated. This guy isn't even a journeymen. He's what I like to call a bona-fide "canvas connisuer". As in he's "sampled canvas" in just about every continent in the world...)

P.S- CurlyGC, personally...I kind of consider the top-3 to be "1a, 1b, and 1c" for the time being. Peace...

5:58 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

BTW-Former 2004 Olympian Devin Vargas is another guy that would be perfectly suited for the 200-pound division JE. He could either be a mediocre hvy...Or a good cruiserweight, simply put.

6:03 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

***RESULTS***

Boy did I ever BLOW this one folks...

Maskaev KO over Rahman in the 12th.

;-(

9:11 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

We're gonna have hard time moving around all the names this month.

6:01 AM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Yeah, gonna be some "jockeying" here next month, eh? Among other things - Oleg takes a big jump UP, and Rahman a big one DOWN. (As in almost out of the top-10 I.M.O)

*Sidenote- It's two bad one of the best hvy's (Liahkovich) and one of the better ones (Brewster) are more or less in "limbo". LB due to injury, and Sergei due to...(???)

4:34 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

Brock also has be very high on the list. Peter will also figure in.

7:14 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Umm...*Scratches head*...I would actually keep those two right where they are currently at J.E. I think the only thing (in the top-5) that changes, is Oleg goes in (somewhere) and Rahman goes out.

* Brock could be the potential dark horse/sleeper in the division. I don't think he has the potential to be "great" quite frankly, but he is good, and solid all-around.

10:57 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

As for Peter J.E, I think he is-what-he-is, and always will be. i.e. a limited one-dimensional bomber with a good chin, that will beat most, but not all. Kind of like a lesser-skilled Ray Mercer with a slightly bigger punch, or a taller David Tua. That being said, I don't care WHO he's in against (even Holmes or Ali!) he may lose 12-0, but he will be DANGEROUS from beginning to end.

11:16 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

BTW- *Chuckle* I got a kick out of that last line on Paolo Vidoz...(LOL)...;-)

11:19 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

*JUST ANNOUNCED*

Denis Boytsov's next opponent (Sept.9) will be...Young once-defeated Ondrej Pala! This is a GOOD fight! Pala is 11-1 w/8 KO's, and his only loss was one via the decision route to undefeated Rene Dettweiller! Pala is very young (21) and a big boy of about 6'3" and close to 250.lbs. He will have a considerable size advantage. The fight will be a 10-rounder. Props for both of these camps coming together to put this one on! A real pleasant surprise! (We should know a little more about Boytsov after Sept.9th folks. Pala may not be a 'world beater' - but he is definetly a 'live opponent'.)

* Sidenote-Once again...A shame this one isn't available in the states via webcast, eh?

;-(

2:34 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Yet again...I would pay $10 for a webcast of this in a heartbeat. Boytsov has fought a few guys that maybe had the potential of "giving him some problems", or perhaps "going the distance", but this is his first fight...That he has a chance of LOSING. Besides that, the card itself looks pretty 'stacked'!

2:52 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

P.S-I just got word that Pala was reportedly "robbed" in that Dettweiler fight! Ondrizek about crapped his pants when I told him Boytsov was fighting him! (lol)

3:22 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

Perhaps webcasts are the wave of the future. The promoters in Europe could develop a nice wad of extra income over and above their overhead costs by putting their Euro talents on the net.

6:15 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

I think the division needs a tournament -- not just to determine the true champ but to bring forward the next generation.

9:34 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

If not a tournament JE, then at least a showcase evening of the young hvy's vs. decent opposition. I know most of these guys are from outside the U.S, but they could even feature a few of the American guys if they wanted. Time for another "Night of The Young Hvy's".

*I'm a bit intrigued by webcast possibilities...

10:31 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Another excellent fight that won't be seen in the states JE? Abraham-Miranda. A legit top-5 middle against a legit top-10 one, and both are exciting to watch.

;-(

10:56 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Hmm...Klitschko-Briggs is listed at 3-1. I was hoping it would be more like 5-1, and was going to throw a little on Briggs. Toney-Peter? Even-money/pick-em.

I would probably take Toney there (I think he may make Peter look stupid) but not until he steps off the scale, and not unless he is 230 or less. The 38 also bothers me a little. I'll probably steer clear of that one...

11:27 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

Do you think Klitschko is going to go through with the Briggs fight? I thought I read that Steward was holding off until after the Rahman-Maskaev to go final.

7:49 AM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

I think Klitschko-Briggs is about a 99% certainty at this point JE. I would be shocked if it falls through. I'll check with Ondrizek to see if he has any new info though.

...100!

;-)

12:02 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

I definitely will pick Peter to plop Toney. Too much power for too much fattitude.

1:31 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

No biggie, but probably time to put Taras Bidenko in for September. He won over Mazakin. Umm...*Gazes over list* I think we can find room somewhere...(lol)

5:18 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

Bidenko can box his way out of a paper bag, but if it's stapled shut then he is in trouble, because he can't punch his way out. As for Klitschko/Briggs. Wladimir has stated that he wants to know his opponent right now! And that he wants that opponent to be Briggs. Liakhovich still has a chance because of HBO, but a deal is already done with Briggs and is just waiting on the signatures, it has been that way for over a month.

5:33 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Damn...That first line sounded like something I would say Troy...(LOL)

P.S- I do have a few questions for Scott. I'll email you.

6:49 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

I was a bit surprised at one thing in watching the Toney-Peter preview recently; the difference in height. Or should I say - lack thereof. There doesn't look to be more than 2, or at the absolute most 3 inches difference there.

2:13 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

I think Peter is listed at 6'2". It could've been the angle.

6:00 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

That's possible JE, but I don't think so. I actually think Peter may be 6'0" or 6'1" at the absolute most.

* Not too terribly uncommon. Lamon Brewster used to be listed at 6'2", and at 5'11" - he wasn't more than an inch or two taller than me.

8:47 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Damn...That SUCKS we won't be able to catch that Boytsov-Pala fight, Troy. No webcast, nothing. I may have to look into illegal sattelite-interception options or something...(lol)

Have a good wknd JE! (Hopefully you get them off?) I know poor T.O usually doesn't!

11:07 AM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

I need a clip of Boystov.

6:58 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

10-4 JE. I have a few I will get to you.

8:51 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

Great thanks.

6:53 AM  
Blogger orltroy said...

Yep I'm working right now. Anyways I stopped by with some news. Okay Gonzalo Omar Basille is a hot item. First Scott Hirsch was looking and still is looking to get him for Jameel McCline, but it looks like Guinn pulled out of negoitations with Povetkin because he sisn't want to be a stepping stone yet and a victory over Povetkin wouldn't get him much, so Basille is already listed on Povetkin's site as his next opponent for his Sept. 23rd bout. Man I love how Povetkin is progressing. Briggs would've landed his title shot against Klitschko no problem had he fought the same level of opposition in his last five fights as Povetkin has.

5:02 PM  
Blogger JE Boxing said...

So, it has been worth following the Argentinian huh? I'll give the guy credit, he's been very active. We'll know very soon if he can really fight won't we?

6:02 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

Yes we will, he has been down recently, and that doesn't bode well for him against Povetkin. Not so bad against McCline, but Povetkin can bang, I really want to see more of Povetkin, it's sad really. Not as sad as Brian's fixation of Roman Greenberg. Greenberg hasn't fought since Israel defeated Egypt.

7:55 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!! Good one Ondrizek...LOL...I actually misread your msg on J.A's, and din't catch the Basille part. That's a good fight! ;-)

P.S- For the record, I rank Boytsov as my #1 hvy prospect, and Greenberg #2. But yes...(#2 with the proverbial "Israelian bullet" perhaps? LOL!)

P.S 2- Ohh...That wasn't Tony Demarco the other night Troy. I was both misinformed, and...Extremely DRUNK! No other way to put it! LOL...Man, I probably haven't been that drunk since my teens or at least 20's. Ugh...I had a TWO-day hangover. It was vicious. I can't believe I was typing and talking a semi straight-line. (* That was pretty funny what Weldon said! "What are you going on about Bizzack??? You either just totally changed the subject, or you are on the wrong end of the bottle tonight, son". LOL! True! )

11:32 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

BTW- I do know who the guy was Troy, and it's kinda interesting. Among other things - he was ringside for the infamous Griffith-Paret fight. I'll fill you in later...

11:34 PM  
Blogger orltroy said...

Damnit it's not letting me post. Anyways, Brian Fair enough about Demarco impersonator. As for your hangover, why didn't you take my advice about Electrolyte enhanced beverages and some Oranges for the Nisacin, plus Toradol (headache) and Zofran (nausea). Never listen to the medical man huh. Anyways, Boytsov and Pala is tearing me apart. My mind says Boytsov, but my heart, my very Bohunk heart says Pala. Anyways, if Denis gets through this one, especially impressively, then he took a big step in my mind.

1:05 AM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Well...He wasn't "impersonating" Demarco Troy, so much as I was almost SEEING "Demarcos" that night! (LOL) Actually there is a bit of a story behind it, and he's a very interesting guy. An M.D nonetheless! (How on earth did I get involved with all of these highly educated people? Well, thank god for Amato and "Mr.Bill"! LOL) He has a real love/hate affair with Boxing, as was perhaps evident by his post. (This was due to the Griffith-Paret fight.) Ohh, you are actually correct about the eloctrolyte semi-cure Troy. I knew that beforehand. (Leave it to me - the "psuedo medical man!") Also, I have found that a few Excedrin (Aspirin/Tylenol/Caffeine combo) as well as a Valium or Xanax if you have access to one (LOL) also helps.

BTW-Spot-on with Boytsov. You could almost say the same about Povetkin's fight as well, in a slightly different manner. And guess what? We won't get to see either one...;-(

4:20 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

* Sidenote - Any Henry Akinwande, Audley Harrison, or Dominic Guinn fight is a suitable subsitute for the mild/moderate "sedative".

4:22 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

Oh...JE, no big deal, but you may want to wait until Sept.3rd (after Toney-Peter) to send in the Sept. top-20. Unless the fight is a draw or very close, one of these guys could possibly sneak into the top-5, and one...Perhaps out of the top-10.

5:18 PM  
Anonymous the cruiserweight said...

TYPO: JE top-25.

;-)

5:18 PM  
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8:04 PM  
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